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The Shuttle Discovery: Encounter In Space?
06/26/92
Larry King Live
The Shuttle Discovery: Encounter in Space?
KING: Welcome back to Larry King Live.
A camera aboard the space shuttle Discovery recorded a curious
sight nine months ago. Some UFO researchers are calling it a
breakthrough video: a clear view of a craft, not one of ours,
performing a high-speed maneuver. Others, with years in the space
program, say it's just plain old debris. Judge for yourself.
The mission was STS-48, flown in September of last year. As
Discovery circled the Earth, the camera picks up what looks like an object drifting from right to left, then suddenly and strangely
veering off to the right and out of view, followed by what looks
like a tracer or laser from the bottom to the top of the screen.
Another, closer look: The object appears to change direction.
NASA says it was waste water dumped from Discovery. UFO
enthusiasts disagree and claim NASA has long hidden the full extent of outer space UFO encounters.
With us from Los Angeles - Don Ecker of UFO Magazine. In
Houston - space engineer and author, James Oberg, who worked on
ground communications for this shuttle mission, the one in question.
Don, why are you so sure this is a UFO?
DON ECKER, `UFO' Magazine: Well, it certainly has all the
appearances, Larry, of being something that is unidentified. It
certainly appears to be flying. And we do not normally associate
waste water - or, as some pundits are calling it, urine in space -
to make drastic right-angle turns.
KING: Why would NASA want to hide it?
Mr. ECKER: Why would the United States Government want to keep
this subject under wraps for 45 years? That's an excellent
question.
KING: Why?
Mr. ECKER: Well, we could certainly go into the realm of
speculation-
KING: I mean, the Government denies it, so you're going to have
to tell me why you think they hide it.
Mr. ECKER: OK. Well, to begin with, I have a couple of
questions that I want to address to Jim first, Larry, that I think
are germane.
To begin with, good evening, Jim. And I have a couple of
questions. To begin with, what capacity are you here in this
evening? Are you here-
KING: Hold it. They're straightening out Jim's microphone. So
let me get straight with you and then they'll let me know and we'll be ready to take that through.
When you saw these tapes for the first time, were you just
feeding your own, for want of a better term, frenzy, something
you'd been wrapped up with for a long time? Or did you turn this
over for analysis? Did you look at it? Did you investigate their
explanation?
Mr. ECKER: Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I have the
documents with me with what NASA had claimed that these particular
anomalous objects are. There are several events on this particular
tape that originally came from a cable television channel back in
the Maryland area that downlinked it on the NASA K-band.
Basically, this was event number two, which shows a number of
anomalous objects in this particular segment of footage, and there
are a number of things that just simply don't stack up with what
NASA is claiming that these things are.
If you watch the entire segment, you will notice that several
moments after this particular event happens, NASA begins preparing
for the waste water dump.
KING: OK, now, James are you with us now? Are we clicked in OK?
JAMES OBERG, Space Engineer: That's fine. We can talk to outer
space OK, but I had a problem with your-
KING: OK, that's James Oberg, space engineer and author. He
worked on flight control for the shuttle mission.
And you say this is not phenomena, right?
Mr. OBERG: It's a phenomenon that's very familiar. Larry, we
see this since the fireflies on John Glenn's flight 30 years ago.
Spacecraft are surrounded by clouds of debris - ice, dust,
insulation, and other fragments. These pieces - and I've seen
these tapes and I've seen hundreds of hours of tapes like that -
are fairly ordinary phenomena.
KING: OK, Don has a couple of quick questions for you.
Don?
Mr. ECKER: Yes. Jim, what capacity are you here in this
evening? Are you here as a civilian? Are you here as a
representative of Lockheed-
Mr. OBERG: I'm not representing-
Mr. ECKER: -or of NASA?
Mr. OBERG: Don, don't give loaded questions, here. I have no
connection with Lockheed. I'm a space nut. I'm interested in
outer space myths and folklore-
Mr. ECKER: So in other words, you're here on your own accord?
KING: Yes, in other words, James, you're not here representing
NASA, right?
Mr. OBERG: I'll play it back, Don. I'm not here as editor of a
magazine trying to sell subscriptions.
KING: OK, no, James-
Mr. ECKER: OK, let me ask you this-
KING: Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it-
Mr. ECKER: Let me ask you this-
KING: Hold it, hold it-
Mr. ECKER: James-
KING: Don- Don- Don, hold it. It's my show.
James, you're not here as a representative of NASA, right?
Mr. OBERG: No. No, I have written on this subject for a long
time.
KING: OK. Did you work on this mission?
Mr. OBERG: Yes, I did.
KING: In what capacity?
Mr. OBERG: I was in the flight control center, part of helping
the deployment of one of the satellites. So I was there for-
KING: Are you a contracted employee to NASA?
Mr. OBERG: Yes. Yes, I am. Yes, I am.
KING: OK, but tonight you appear as James Oberg, space engineer-
Mr. OBERG: That's right.
KING: -not representing NASA?
Mr. OBERG: That's correct.
Mr. ECKER: All right, Larry, I have one more question for Jim-
KING: OK, now, go ahead, Don. Go ahead.
Mr. ECKER: Yes, I have one more question for him.
Jim, are you working here under the constraints of any security
agreements that you may have signed with NASA?
Mr. OBERG: No, I'm not. Myself's not the issue. The issue are
these pictures and the big deal people are making out of it.
Mr. ECKER: Well, this is a simple question, Jim. Are you
working under security constraints?
KING: All right, no, James, that's a fair question. Did you
sign any kind of an agreement with NASA not to reveal certain
things?
Mr. OBERG: DOD material, yes. This is not, and this is not
covered. Nothing about this material is covered-
Mr. ECKER: All right, let me- One last question, Jim-
KING: `DOD' means Department of Defense material?
Mr. OBERG: Department of Defense, that's right.
KING: OK. Go ahead, Don.
Mr. ECKER: One last question, and this question is very simple.
With the security agreements that you have signed, before we start
addressing this particular segment of footage, if you had any
awareness of anomalous objects, would you be free to talk about
them? And I'm talking about anomalous objects that are not our
debris or our spacecraft.
Mr. OBERG: I am totally free to talk about these kinds of
topics, anything seen on the shuttle. I have talked about it. I
have a long history of writing for Omni Magazine and other
magazines and books-
Mr. ECKER: Well, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying-
Mr. OBERG: -because it's clear-
Mr. ECKER: You're usually on-
Mr. OBERG: I'm giving you an expert opinion-
KING: Don, Don, Don- Hold it. Guys, hold it. This is not a
trial, Don. He answered the question. If it was not a Defense
Department fear, he could talk about anything.
Now, would you briefly, James-
Mr. OBERG: There was nothing on STS-48 that was classified,
nothing on that flight.
KING: All right. Would you tell us, you are convinced beyond
question that this is debris?
Mr. OBERG: This looks just like it. Now, it could be someone
masquerading at it. Look at those pieces. They're small pieces.
Why is it that we see these- It's always small pieces, just at the
limit of the cameras. There are always pieces like that floating
around. When jets fire, when things leak out or are expelled from
the shuttle, the jets hit pieces. They change direction. I've
seen it- I wouldn't say hundreds of times, but I've seen it before
on other missions.
KING: Don, what do you think it is? If it's a UFO, what is it,
Don?
Mr. ECKER: Well, to begin with, Larry-
KING: I mean, why don't they land here and talk to us?
Mr. ECKER: If, in fact, it were debris- And Jim is very well
aware that debris will tumble, will toss, will turn while in orbit.
The close-up digitally-enhanced segment of this particular footage
shows absolutely no tumbling motion, whatsoever. This is moving in
a straight line. It makes a drastic right-angle turn, shoots off
into space. Now, if, in fact, it were a result-
Mr. OBERG: Don's got to watch some more tapes. He's got to
watch a few hundred more hours of tapes and he'll see this all the
time.
Mr. ECKER: If, in fact, Jim- Just a moment. If, in fact, it
were a piece of debris and if the attitude thrusters from the
shuttle had been fired, then, the way the camera was set up on that particular mission, the entire shuttle picture would have moved,
because it did several moments after this particular incident.
Mr. OBERG: I'm just amazed how much Don can learn about the
space program from so many thousands of miles away from Mission
Control. These are the kinds of things-
Mr. ECKER: Well, if, in fact, Jim, we're going to talk about
this, fine. If we're going to start ad hominem attacks, that's
something else.
Mr. OBERG: All right, let's go back to the films.
KING: We'll come right back with James Oberg and Don Ecker.
We'll also include your phone calls on this extraordinary topic
that never goes away. This is Larry King Live. Don't you go away.
{Commercial break}
KING: Let's start to include your phone calls for Don Ecker -
he's a researcher with UFO Magazine - and James Oberg, space
engineer and author.
Huntsville, Alabama - famous area for outer space - hello.
4th CALLER: {Huntsville, Alabama} Hello?
KING: Yes.
4th CALLER: My name is O.H. Bond, Jr. {sp?}. I'm in
Huntsville, Alabama.
KING: Yes, sir.
4th CALLER: I have an experiment on the shuttle which has flown
a number of times called the Mesoscale Lightning Experiment {sp?},
in which we look for mesoscale lightning and we look for the
effects of unusual events which occur in space.
KING: And?
4th CALLER: Particularly, we look for lightning events which
we've seen to go 20 miles straight up into the stratosphere from
cloud stockfilms.
KINMeaning?
4th CALLER: The question I want to ask you guys is- With
respect to these flying objects, I agree with James Oberg. From
what I have seen over numbers of years of looking at video images,
this is debris from the spacecraft, as far as I can determine. And
the second thing is I believe that many of the objects we see are
the other debris which is in orbit.
4th CALLER: The question I want to ask you guys is- With
respect to these flying objects, I agree with James Oberg. From
what I have seen over numbers of years of looking at video images,
this is debris from the spacecraft, as far as I can determine. And
the second thing is I believe that many of the objects we see are
the other debris which is in orbit.
KING: Don?
Mr. ECKER: I would have to ask, Larry, that if, in fact, this
is the case that this was debris from the shuttle, why is it not
tumbling? Why did it make such a drastic turn? The fact that NASA
claims-
Mr. OBERG: Can I answer that? If you give me some time, I can
answer that.
Mr. ECKER: Well, the question was addressed to me first, and
I'm asking the question, Jim, and then you can go to it.
Mr. OBERG: And you'll make sure that you don't- You don't want
the answer.
KING: All right, but it's a fair question that Don puts, and
let Jim respond to it. Why would a piece of debris move like that?
I've never seen debris move like that.
Mr. OBERG: Well, you have to- People can watch this. As the
shuttle is going through orbit, people don't realize there are more than 50 points on the nose of the shuttle, the tail, on the side-
more than 50 points where debris, water, ice, come off- from the
belly. And as these pieces come off and rocket engines can fire,
they'll form what are called plumes. They'll form a blast. And as
debris will go into that area, they will turn, and you can watch
this.
Fortunately, we have on the SATCOM F2R satellite and on many,
many cable networks the NASA select from space flight. It's the
reason that these people saw this tape in the first place. I would
simply recommend that they and anyone else watch that tape for more than a few hours. Watch it for several years, in terms of the
missions. And they'll be seeing this kind of event.
But the thing about why these are just debris and not
spacecraft, alien spacecraft- They're always small. They're always
just at the limit of the camera.
KING: But you don't know-
Mr. OBERG: No matter how much the camera is zoomed in, it's
still just a dot-
KING: James, this isn't 100 percent-
Mr. OBERG: -and that just tells you these are little pieces.
KING: You don't know it for sure, but it's your best educated
guess, right?
Mr. OBERG: I'll tell you, if we saw some real spacecraft- If I
saw some real spacecraft - and I know many people in the space
program - saw something out there that could be really proof of
something revolutionary, there's no power on earth that would be
able to stop people from coming out and being on your show-
Mr. ECKER: Larry, one thing-
KING: All right, let me get a call in.
Sykesville, Maryland, hello.
5th CALLER: {Sykesville, Maryland} Hello, this is Vincent
DiPetro {sp?}.
KING: Yes.
5th CALLER: From Sykesville, Maryland.
KING: Yes.
5th CALLER: I originally did an analysis of this very tape that
you're showing on TV.
KING: Uh-huh.
5th CALLER: And I'd like to make a few comments about this.
KING: Are you a scientist?
5th CALLER: I work at Goddard Space Flight Center. I'm an
engineer.
KING: OK.
5th CALLER: I work with the space program.
KING: All right.
5th CALLER: But I'm doing this freelance. And I'd like to say
that I've sent this to a number of scientists, called a number of
engineers, and they've all described this event as ice.
KING: Ice?
5th CALLER: Ice, that has turned in a way- If you look at the
other debris that's on the screen, you'll see that in every case
there is a right-angle turn that is made of this debris. In other
words, it's not-
Mr. ECKER: Well, Vince- Vince, let me ask you a question,
because I have the entire tape. And I also have the section that
you digitally enhanced that shows clearly a domed disc object that
was recorded on this mission. Do you deny that?
5th CALLER: I see that on there, and I do not know what that is.
Mr. ECKER: Did you digitally enhance it?
5th CALLER: Yes.
Mr. ECKER: OK. Did it look to you like an anomalous object, or
did it look like debris or ice?
5th CALLER: It looks like an object, but I can't explain what
it is. And I'm not saying that it isn't something that you're
describing. The only thing I'm saying is that the explanation that
I have gotten is that this debris is ice. There's no way of
determining how big it is. It could be a microinch, a couple of
inches. It's certainly not several hundred feet across, as a lot
of people would be led to believe. And the explanation I got was
that there were rockets, little tiny rockets, that are used to
change the attitude of the spacecraft on the sides; that when those things go off- It's nitric acid and hydrozene that fires these
rockets. When they go off-
Mr. ECKER: Yes, and there is no flash, either, is there, Vince?
5th CALLER: There is a flash that you can see at the beginning.
And if you are so careful as to take a piece of cellophane and put
it onto your TV set, you will see that all of these objects- Not
the ones that are stars, because the stars you can clearly see go
behind the horizon. But if you look at the debris that flies from
left to right and so forth, everything makes a right-hand turn.
It's even less-
Mr. ECKER: Well, Vince, since you worked on this particular
piece of footage, let me ask you another question. Before this
event happens, this object rises up out of the blackness and is
traveling from right to upper left. Now, if, in fact, it was there
prior to the start of this sequence, how do you explain that?
5th CALLER: I explain that in this way. If you listen {sp?} to
the tape carefully, you will see that the spacecraft is just coming out of twilight into sunlight. Now, if there was debris flying
around in the blackness of space, you would not see it until it was lit up.
KING: OK. All right, we're going to have to do some more on
this-
Mr. OBERG: Or it might have come over the payload bay where the
lights are. Either way, that would explain it.
KING: Let me get a break, and we'll come right back.
Thanks for calling, Vince, by the way.
We'll come back with more. This is fascinating - I don't
understand it, but it's fascinating! Don't go away.
{Commercial break}
KING: All right, we're running close on time.
Don, are we ever going to see one of these land on the White
House lawn and speak to us?
Mr. ECKER: Well, I don't know about landing on the White House
lawn, Larry, but we had in 1952 three flights that overflew the
White House.
I have one last question that I want to ask Jim very quickly
and briefly.
KING: All right, real fast.
Mr. ECKER: Jim, are you aware of any NASA studies on UFO
phenomena?
Mr. OBERG: I'm aware, Don, of 30 years of phony stories-
Mr. ECKER: And I'm not saying spaceships. I'm saying-
Mr. OBERG: -in UFO magazines-
Mr. ECKER: I'm saying-
Mr. OBERG: -taking transcripts-
KING: Guys, we'll have you both come back. We're out of time.
Thanks, fellows-
Mr. OBERG: -and faking them.
KING: OK, thanks. We're out of time. Thanks very much.
Hope you enjoyed this edition of `Don Ecker Live' from
Washington. {laughs} A little fun there.
UFO SIGHTING IN MIDDLETON, OHIO ON AUGUST 31ST 2013 - UFO HOVERED, THEN CHANGED DIRECTION, BLINKED OUT AS DESCENDING
My friends (3) and I were driving from Hamilton towards Middleton, OH. We saw them plain as day in the night sky. There were 6 or 7 of them in the shape of the big dipper, but bigger and brighter than stars. They were shaped like ovals placed horizontally with a sort of dome on top. They had some light coming through the bottom, not like a beam, but like they were going to descend and needed to see their way. Initially, they were just hanging there, then they were descending right to left, in doing so slightly changing their formation, and finally began descended left to right, blinking out as they did. The last one to do seemed to be on fire. My friends tried to get their cellphone cameras working, but one phone wouldn't turn on, and one phone's video wouldn't show them there. I felt that they were still there though. I felt uneasy and wanted to go home. We got into the car and left, as we were heading towards the city lights of Middleton, we saw a plane flying to that exact same area in the sky that it had happened.
2013 SIGHTING REPORT
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The prophet Carl Jung had some interesting insights into UFO phenomena, commenting on the limited number of sightings reported up through the 1950s and predicting that the phenomena would increase. Jung is dubious or agnostic about the material reality of UFOs, but saw in the phenomena a technological-era manifestation of the religious instinct. Basically, he argues that instead of angels and devas in the sky, the modern mind conjures godlike otherworldly scientists with all the answers (who poke and prod the body instead of the soul) and who give us new myths of abduction like the "old" faery ones. Fun idea.
Patrick Harpur suggests that there's an order of reality he classifies as "daimonic," which he sees as adaptive (though he does not firmly resolve whether this daimonic realm is real or false or middling, nor whether in is in our minds, ourside of our minds, or both). For Harpur, it's likely that faeries and UFOs and crop circles and crying madonnas, etc. all originate in or participate in "Daimonic Reality".
Harpur analyzes the repeated patterns in these seemingly disparate phenomena and comes up with some interesting and useful observations. I recommend this book to anyone new to magic or wrestling with unusual phenomena. One of the best things it does is make us aware of the possibility of an area between the real and the unreal. But he strongly suggests that whatever this area is--actual entities or merely the return of the repressed (a la Jung's UFO analysis), or some sort of responsive, intelligent energy field--it functions as though it has a very creative will of its own. Harpur believes that what Daimonic Reality wants is our acknowledgement of its existence.
The above paragraphs set the ground for this thought: I read a lot of conspiracy theory and generally don't take it to heart. I find it interesting because it is often like an open window on the collective psyche. Sometimes the most flagrant "nutters" mirror exactly things I see in other places. Radically different things are going on, but UFO and "lizard people" conspiracies reach for some of the same archetypes many others do... whether New Agey alien dispensationalists or Lovecraftian alien intelligences. Looking at variant material that includes the same archetypes--some very rationally, some far out--gives clues about what's going on in the broader collective. Jung used similar methods to make accurrate predictions about cultural phenomena, including the rise of Nazism and the prediction of more UFO preoccupations.
It seems to me that one of the things conspiracy theory does is give people a means and outlet for associative thinking and their perceptions of correspondence--as though there is an inherent, often frustrated drive to use the associative faculty to make sense of the world. These patterns of thought are undoubtedly natural, since the brain is hardwired associatively and generally has to acquire linear processes. Yet these natural patterns are suppressed, and if a contemporary Westerner doesn't have much engaged religion, poetry, art or ritual in their lives, these patterns may manifest pathologically. They are especially dangerous when associative and linear modes are conflated (as when myth is taken as history or oracular utterances literalized). I find it interesting that conspiracy is precisely the sort of locus where associational and historical modes are most likely to be confused, and it's a locus that is precisely about whether or not mass knowledge is corrupted!
Correspondence is about similarity and analogy and is alleged to operate across time and space, to inhere in both idea and substance. It's the logic behind sympathetic magic, and it predominated in human cultures worldwide until the advent of widespread literacy (dominating en masse until the 18th century and not sorely wounded until the 20th).
Ideas like morphic resonance and acausality appear in contemporary theoretical physics, a discipline in which complex modeling is becoming more and more visual and less and less encoded in bits of math that a human mind can hold at once. Notions along these lines seem to suggest possible reasons why correspondence works and why a failure to give it place in our psyches could result in pathology. It may inhere in the basic structures and processes of the cosmos ('as above, so below"). Associative pathology is sort of like mistaking a tarot spread for one's actual life, rather than something capabable of acausally mirrioring one's life. It's like the simplistic notion of astrology that believes the planets CAUSE change rather than simply "vibrate" in harmony with it, reflecting it from a distance through some ontological link. Freud himself was guilty of just such conflation, reading dreams and other correspondent material deductively and developmentally. The error is at the root of the Freudian absurdities so often reviled:"According to Freud, it is the insistent return of the repressed that can explain numerous phenomena that are normally overlooked: not only our dreams but also what has come to be called "Freudian slips" (what Freud himself called "parapraxes"). According to Freud, there is a "psychology of errors"; that slip of the tongue or that slip of the pen, "which have been put aside by the other sciences as being too unimportant" (Introductory Lectures 15.27), "become for Freud the clues to the secret functioning of the unconscious. Indeed, he likens his endeavor to "a detective engaged in tracing a murder" (Introductory Lectures 15.27).Sometimes a cigar not just a phallus or cigar, but is instead an eel, dirigible, rope or cigarette--and maybe all those and more at once. Sometimes it's the lit staff of Prometheus. Sometimes the cigar one perceives belongs to someone else entirely. Jung knew this and reminds us all.
Now we have this big "correspondence aether machine" in the Internet. Wonder what Jung would have thought of that? Built on the principle of association, it has become an unprecedented organ for disseminating conspiracy theory.
Source: umad-mysteries.blogspot.com
On Monday's show, expert on the paranormal Rosemary Ellen Guiley discussed her recent research into the Djinn - powerful spiritual entities that have been described throughout history, as well as her long standing work on dreams. She characterized the Djinn as a race of supernatural beings who were here on the Earth before humanity, but lost dominion of the planet and now live in a parallel dimension to ours. They have access to our world, and there are those among them who are rather hostile to humans, though not all of them are negative, she said. "Based on my research of years and years tracking these entities throughout the paranormal realm, they account for a lot of our negative experiences-- hauntings, possessions, entity encounters...and ET abductions," she revealed.
According to one ancient Arabian legend, the Djinn originated from the winds-- "they were literally primordial wind spirits, often responsible for ill winds that blew in, bringing in disease and bad luck," she detailed. In the Koran, they are explained as preexisting humans created from a substance called smokeless fire, and this may reflect their shapeshifting ability to take on different forms. Interestingly, Guiley concluded after years of studying Shadow People accounts that they are actually Djinn, whom she also believes are connected with alien abduction/hybrid scenarios. Sightings of Shadow People would often precede abductions, she said, sometimes by weeks, months, or years. She also described strange shadow creatures called scuttlers that have been associated with the breakdown of equipment, and health problems. "In writing "The Djinn Connection"...my purpose here is to bring the Djinn to the attention of the western audience, especially to investigators and researchers...they're not on our radar, and we need to know about them," she stated.
Speaking about how to recognize precognitive dreams, Guiley said they typically have a different signature, though that can vary from person to person. "Some people will only have precognitive dreams a few times in their lifetimes, and other people will have them quite frequently," she noted. She also touched on dream incubation, lucid dreaming, and how one can successfully interpret their own dreams (see related guide).
"DISCLOSURE HEARING RECAP:"
First hour guest, ufologist Grant Cameron gave a recap of last week's Citizen's Hearing on Disclosure, which he considers to be the biggest event of its kind since Steven Greer's 2001 Disclosure Project. The panel, which consisted of one former US Senator and five former members of Congress, seemed to be spellbound and eventually won over by the extensive testimony about UFOs, Cameron reported. On the last day, when the panelists made their final statements, Senator Mike Gravel remarked that he was angry about the UFO cover-up and the related withholding of advanced technology from the public. Cameron was one of the presenters at the Hearing and spoke about the UFO-psychic connection. Watch a short clip here.http://sites.google.com/site/chess2u/
I was in the house so my partner, who was layer looking for meteors, called me to go out. I went onto the front position exhibition area and saw one fireball stirring sideways the sky. I knew this was not a metoer! The fireball encouraged on purpose sideways the sky from North to South. It did not decrease, fair-minded encouraged sideways the sky in the thoughts an horizontal would do. As the first fireball encouraged past sideways from us, a second one appeared. It came from the north and followed the exact path as the first fireball. I ran dressed in the completion ring and saw secret the first fireball was a chevron created means then 3 tail-lights glowing blue, sickly and red. It seemed as if time was title mild-mannered for me, yet I was nervous. The fireballs fair-minded diffident stirring in a South direction until they lightened from point. We tried to walk off with a photo, but the camera would not give and take.http://ifttt.com/images/no image card.pngUFO FactsUFO Facts on FacebookEviland Facts Right For You
NASA has a few three proposals, among one from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., as Apparatus Indication Missions to focus space communications, internal space navigation and in-space propulsion capabilities. The projects order spring and fly a space solar crossing, internal space infinitesimal moment in time, and space-based visual communications system. Launches are projected in 2015 and 2016 aboard classified ad space fire up boosters. These crosscutting flight demonstrations were a few since of their option to give up distinct, arrival engender and intersperse high-impact capabilities in the field of NASA's choose space operations missions. By investing in high payoff, undisciplined technology that dealings does not keep today, NASA matures the technology duty-bound for its choose missions nonetheless proving the capabilities and lowering the set a price of government and classified ad space endeavors."These technology manifestation missions order drop our communications, navigation and in-space propulsion capabilities, keep alive choose missions that could not facing be performed, and center the methodological capability of America's space dealings," understood NASA Maximum Technologist Bobby Braun at NASA Staff in Washington. "Optical implication order keep alive steadily use instead of the commodious data share the credit also supply spacecraft and humans to new frontiers. High-performance infinitesimal clocks keep alive a traditional of spacecraft navigation receptive and autonomous operations in internal space never beforehand achieved, and solar sails keep alive new space missions completed spring up operational station-keeping or propellant-less established propulsion capabilities for spacecraft."The Planetary Cross manifestation foretell order deploy and give a demonstration a crossing area 7 times considerable than always flown in space. It is potentially appropriate to a considerable assortment of choose space missions, among an aloof space weather warning system to give up supervisor convenient and meticulous fascination of solar flaunt activity. This technology else could be sensible to sparing orbital refuse clearout and propellant-less internal space exploration missions. The Homespun Oceanic and Atmospheric Committee is collaborating also NASA and L'GARDE INC. on the manifestation. Especially from MSNBC and NASA.
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NM MUFON NEWS611 Lead SW, #918Albuquerque, NM 87102$12 yearly subscription for 12 issues.Editor - Carolyn Duce-Ashe (505) 897-7075Producer - Debby Stark (505) 242-6258This interview is combined from issues #6 and #7, or June and July 1993.
Exclusive: TALKING TO ED DAMESby Debby StarkFor several weeks I had been getting antsy that we were writing so muchabout PSI TECH in Your Newsletter but not actually speaking to anyone fromthat organization. At last I decided that the best thing was to write to EdDames and ask him some questions since his business is located here intown. On the afternoon of May 20 I composed a letter and I finished it at5:30. I went out to the mail boxes at my apartment complex and discoveredthat the mail was only just then being distributed; the replacement carrierwas very late so my letter could leave with him. That should have been myfirst indication that Thursday had been exactly the right day to write thatletter.Why? Your editor, Carolyn, called around noon the next day to say she hadheard from Mr. Dames in response to my letter and that rather than writeback, he hoped we could get together for a chat. In a short time wearranged to meet on the following Monday, May 24.The Interview and My DisclaimerCarolyn and I asked if we could tape the conversation but Dames indicatedthat he preferred we didn't. As it turned out, there was so much noise froma live piano player and a fake waterfall in the Holiday Inn's lobby thattaping wouldn't have worked. So instead I am relying on copious short-handnotes. Due to the wide-ranging nature of our conversation, I am breakingthis report into at least two parts and two issues: The Big Event, andeverything else.I hope you have read Carolyn's PSI TECH report in the last two issues ofYour Newsletter and in UFO magazine (Vol. 8, #3). If you have, you alreadyhave an inkling what the Big Event is all about. Basically, aliens arecoming to (or actually may already be in) New Mexico. This isn't called TheLand of Enchantment for nothing.First, Dames warned us several times that while he was telling us what heand PSI TECH have observed, in the end "They" (the aliens) are in charge ofeverything. He said, "We think they're going to meet us more than half way,but they have their own agenda, it's stupid to second guess them." Iunderstand that he mentioned to another researcher that if the Big Eventhasn't happened by the end of August he's getting out of the UFO busi-ness. He reminded us that foremost he is a business man, and, while he hasbeen interested in UFOs for a long time, business comes first now. Hehinted that he might have an investor willing to pay for PSI TECH'sUFO-oriented work, one who will allow the information to become public(which is why PSI TECH has kept the project in-house, so it won't becomesomeone's proprietary information).Also, Dames explained that PSI TECH is "action oriented," but, fortunately,"we keep getting the carrot," i.e., interesting things keep happening thathave sustained the employees interest.The Big Event: A SummaryThere are two sites involved. Site One is somewhere near Chaco Canyon, aplace of historic and prehistoric interest to many cultures. "They wantedus there," Dames said, "far from the meeting ground," i.e., Site Two, "theywanted to educate us." The implication for me was that "they" expect thespirituality associated with Chaco to instill a certain awe in humans,perhaps to help condition them. "It's a programmed approach... We need tounderstand what we're dealing with before they land... They're not going toland until we have a better understanding."Dames is not doing this alone but has invited various researchers along toSite One. Also, apparently the Aliens are looking for a "special person."He didn't tell who this special person was, not even a hint other than thatit wasn't who we might think. What special person do you think aliens wouldlike to talk to?He said we may not get "the hybrids" before August, but we will have anindication of a landing before the end of August. It will be a "vanguardcolony" of perhaps 30.Hybrids? you ask, your mind reeling.Here's the story: Apparently some 150 million years ago the Martians wereliving comfortably on Mars. A large celestial object of some sortsideswiped the planet and sucked away part or all of the atmosphere. TheMartians must have foreseen this disaster because they built shelters(pyramids), stocked them and moved in. Dames reminds us that pyramids havebeen seen on Mars. (See the work of Richard Hoagland.) The Martians,apparently hoping that the planet would regenerate its atmosphere overtime, remained in their pyramid/hibernation chambers. They ate all the foodand began to die; the population dwindled to 15%.Then, "from out of the blue--or rather, out of the black" came space shipsto rescue them. These were from what Dames said at the TREAT V conferencethey call "the Federation" because they are a federation of a dozen or sodifferent interstellar traveling races. Unfortunately things when wrong.[Personal aside: I get the feeling this is more Kirk's Federation thanPicard's...]"It got messy..." Dames said, but then he warned us, "we're missing a lotof this, about 20%." For example, PSI TECH is uncertain how the Federationmoved the Martians, whether it was through time (which they seem to becapable of now) or just waiting it out. He did say that they wanted tobring the survivors here, to Earth, but "somebody already had a plan forthis planet," it was already somebody else's garden way back then...Some of the adult Martians are still enchambered in a controlledenvironment, he said. Some are here on Earth; some are still back on Mars;and others are in a "goop" that sustains them and into which their wastesfilter. Some of the Martians are upset about the gooped ones because theyhave been in the goop so long (150 million years?) that they've totallychanged in the horrid conditions and can now only communicatetelepathically. One can imagine; the remote viewers did not enjoy seeingthis, it made some of them physically sick.Here on earth, though, the gravity is hard on the Martians. While they canlive with it, they are unable to reproduce. The rescuers have been makinghybrids to save what they can. The adults, then, are Martians, but theirchildren are hybrids. Dames foresees hybrids helping/working with humansand eventually returning to Mars to open the catacombs to see what theirancestors looked like.So, "Mars is super important." The moon is used as a transit point,something like a parking garage. "The moon is where the hardware iskept."He suggested a closer study of videos taken of the moon's surface(like the ones a Japanese astronomer took of an object crossing themoon's face). At the TREAT Conference, when asked about greys, he mentionedthat the moon was about the only place PSI TECH had seen them, in the"parking garages."Site Two is apparently where the Federation is arranging the meeting withthese Martians and hybrids, and it is also in New Mexico. When we asked,"Why here?" Dames pointed out the scientific laboratories located in thestate. [In the June 18 "Albuquerque Journal", there was a headline aboutthe suggested building of a laboratory to study the Mystery Disease. Morescientific minds that could be turned to helping the Martians?Interesting...]At the beginning of the interview, Dames gave us a little background aboutPSI TECH's remote viewing (RVing). Their targets are largely scientific andtechnological. For example, the US military has deep space platforms, aseries of satellites, that watch for rocket launches. The office thatcontrolled the DSPs asked PSI TECH to look into the "things" (upwards offive at a time) that were coming to Earth from "(i.e., outer space)past the DSPs. Dames also mentioned that there have been many UFOintrusions over military bases and nuclear weapons storage depots; thepurpose: apparently keeping track of nuclear weapons. He has talked tomilitary personnel off the record about this.Our next questions involved, as might be expected, the Taos Hum. Had PSITECH looked into it? Naturally! Dames told us that it seems to be caused bya device that is alien in nature. He suggested that rather than accousticalmeasuring devices, investigators should take magnetometers (to measurechanges in magnetic fields). Devices that can be used locally (as opposedto those that measure large areas for big maps) are preferable. The soundseems to be at 17 hz. He mentioned modulated gravity fields and said theyare generated by a solid device. He drew a quick sketch of it; it isunderground. It's purpose? It appears to be a time beacon: a roundedtriangular device with toruses on top. The toruses cause the hum,generating a pulse that heads out into space. Why? Time traveling aliensuse it as a guide post. They sense the pulse of gravity it is creating. Wefailed to ask why it is so noticeable suddenly. Any guesses?He mentioned that his mentor, Ingo Swann ("Everybody's Guide to NaturalESP") will have a new book out this July, "Nostradamus Factor". Anotherauthor he suggested we look for was Prof. James Deardorff. This scientist,Dames said, was right on, he "hit the nail on the head" in his thoughts andwritings about alien subjects. Dames showed us photocopies of two Dear-dorff articles and I noted down the particulars for those who have accessto a college library: "Journal of Radio Astronomy", 1986 (24) 94 - 101 and"Journal of the British Interplanetary Society", V40, 373-79, 1987.Since cattle mutilations are making big news now (at least in UFO interestcircles), we asked about them. Dames said that PSI TECH has spot checkedthem. They have seen a small, remotely operated vehicle that jolts asubject cow with electricity, killing it. It takes samples, vaporizingthem in the process. Why? The samples are "base-line bioassays", PSI TECHhas foreseen nuclear plant accidents in Eastern Europe due to deterioratingplant conditions and poorly (or not) paid workers. He could (but didn't)tell us the exact part that will break in one plant. Thus, the bioassaysfrom around the world are for before and after the radioactive accidents.Hey, we said, if aliens know this is going to happen, why don't they stopit? Dames believes the aliens won't let us get into a nuclear war (again,they know where the weapons are), but as for accidents, well, they teach ussomething. (He has since mentioned that such trials/accidents give us anopportunity to develop Character; depending on an outside force to saveus wouldn't do that.) (Star Trek's "non-interferrence" directive at workhere.)Green fireballs became a brief topic of conversation: They are artifacts ofUFOs' movement through time, He showed us a drawing showing how it mighthappen. The sighting itself is like the sonic boom. The" isn't thejet, it's just an artifact. We catch sight of UFOs moving through time.Dames grinned and described what it was like to be in a UFO, for examplewatching Gulf Breezers on the lookout. A set of humans are on the beach onWednesday, then there's a different bunch on Tuesday, and still adifferent group on Monday... To the humans the UFO may seem to move a bitbut we see it only briefly, in three dimensions; that they're travelingthrough time faster than we are doesn't occur to us.What's so interesting about Gulf Breeze? Aliens are mining potash/potas-sium destined for Mars. "They wave at us as they go back through time toget it."How about Area 51? All the UFOs at Area 51 are actually made by humans. TheAurora-type crafts fascinate Dames (to this reporter he sounded proud ofU.S. capabilities).The government and UFOs. The implication was that the government doesindeed have information on UFOs like pictures, but that the information hasbeen gathered while in the process of looking at other things. Agencieshave "collection priorities,"i.e., getting information about Iran orCuba. While watching what's on the priority list, UFOs are seen andthat... irrelevant information is put somewhere else.MJ-12? Well, Project Blue Book ran out of leads to explain what was beingseen, what was happening. At a high level, those in charge of securityfeared for their jobs. They realized that UFOs weren't Russian. Theysuspected that civilian scientists could have information they needed, butthey couldn't ask out right (readers may recall Stanton Friedman explaininghow various organizations hold their information close, only to discoverthat sharing it could have speeded things up, saved money, etc). So to lureout that private information, official-looking documents were made up,broken to the public and the reaction was monitored. MJ-12: Real documents,fake contents...As for Ed Dames himself, he told us that when he was young he wasfascinated by people like Ivan Sanderson. At that age, strange thingswould fascinate and attract him, "I couldn't figure it out." But "Ifyou're not loosing sleep, you're not alive." Recently he mentioned thatnow he sees the majesty of the whole thing, "It's worth pursuing."He appreciates groups like MUFON and others as well as serious, sincere re-searchers. He suggested that they might want to engage in goodphotoanalysis of the videos of odd things seen on the moon, since thatcapability is increasing. Perhaps the reader has seen the videos made bya Japanese astronomer.In Your Reporter's Opinion..This two-part article synopsizes what we talked about in that all-too-briefmeeting. It was a lot of fun and I hope that Ed Dames remains in the fieldso we can do it again. As you may recall, he has said that if the Big Event(which should be the beginning of a series of events) hadn't happened bythe end of August he was getting out of the UFO business.But, as I've been asked, is he for real? I don't know. In my mind, though,he's got several things going for him:Remote viewing is not a one-person-only phenomenon (i.e:, Ramtha etal). See Ingo Swann's book; or look into what John Alexander and othersare doing.Skilled remote viewers, to my way of thinking, must learn to know"being right feels "even when what they're looking at can't be easilyverified (such as what happened to the Russian probe of Mars). PSITECHguarantees certain amounts of its work 100%, money back. That impresses me.Dames also moved here to be closer to The Big Event. Moving ones entirehousehold and business is not simple, and certainly business was easier toconduct in Maryland, nearer the centers of power, than it is out here inthe desert, as great a place to live as this is.And, maybe the biggest factor in my mind, for all this UFO and other fasci-nating information, Ed Dames hasn't asked us for any money. True, we'vegiven him a lot of free publicity, but if The Big Event fizzles out..I hope it doesn't. Seeing paradigms change for the better in my own lifetime would be great.** End **
No this isn't the Dave Grohl band Foo Fighters, this is the actual Foo Fighters! Or what were dubbed Foo Fighters by pilots in the Second World War (the term UFO didn't become popular until after this). Pilots from all over the world were being chased by these things so it's not some super secret weapon that could be attributed to one particular country. During the course of the war Pilots from all sides of the conflict were reporting strange super sonic aircraft flying around the skies along side them. The first official sighting wasn't until late 1944 by American pilots flying over Germany and the sightings eventually became so frequent that it was initially thought the supersonic craft must have been some sort of German secret weapon. It later turned out that German and Japanese fighter pilots were also reporting the same thing and were assuming it was some sort of allied secret weapon. Pilots were reporting seeing strange glowing objects which appeared to be well controlled flying around their aircraft. They stated the objects would often follow them in formation or fly around their aircraft making almost impossible directional changes before flying off at great speeds. There were several proposed explanations for these including mirages and anti aircraft flak but one aircraft gunner reportedly hit one of these objects with gunfire causing it to fall out of the sky in pieces and demolish buildings on the ground.
The phenomena even made headlines in Time Magazine the New York Times and the Daily Telegraph amongst others. Apart from the American, German, British and Japanese pilots who reported sighting these craft there were Polish sailors, British ground troops and British officers. It wasn't just the pilots spotting the UFO's either but their entire flight crews and also radar operators on the ground were reporting aircraft sized blips moving at incredible speeds around their screens. These strange supersonic craft were not even isolated to one particular place, they were spotted all over Europe, India, Africa the United States and the Pacific. Despite exhausting all lines of enquiry at the time and all the investigations that have been carried out ever since nobody has ever been able to identify what the so-called foo fighters were.
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'Ultimos AVISTAMIENTOS DE OVNIS - Esta formaci'on en forma de tri'angulo fue fotografiado en el cielo por encima de Blackstone, Virginia este mes (en noviembre de 2011).
Testigo informe: "as'i creo que el ej'ercito era havin juegos de guerra, nada fuera de lo normal.. no que estaban usando balas trazadoras mortero n ca'ian en el mismo patr'on un tanto triangular. Sin embargo, la imagen que se tom'o fue la ciudad fuera de la base.. i alcanz'o a ver en el camino de regreso de la tienda de conveniencia. hab'ia un patr'on triangular de luces, pero fue un tri'angulo perfecto, y un color diferente de los trazadores de mortero, y yo cog'i este sobre la ciudad. No s'e si esto era s'olo una bala perdida que de alguna manera logr'o salir de la base, o si.. es m'as significativo que el me imagin'e la pena poner aqu'i"
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Offer is a unimportant watched shocking documentary from the Journal channel which has a few of the legends of UFO investigation and lore:- New York Lawyer Peter Gersten who sued for documents from the US government, Ray Fowler UFO investigator, Col Robert Write to - who headed up project Quiet Version and Basic Native Jesse Marcel who carefully handled the squeeze from the Roswell crash. Clear of these interviews drive cut your observe - if this isn't tribute avowal that can be whispered, I don't judge if you may well judge whatsoever one tells you. This is a requisite see!Conditions 5 Event 1 Persona 1Hosted by Leonard Nimoy and emit magazine from 1976 to 1982, In Vision Of... is the documentation mystery documentary show ever. Wastage the exciting rally and rapid synthesizer-heavy music of Rinder and Lewis. Conditions 5 Event 1 Persona 2
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Posted: December 31, 2007
Date: April 14 - 15, 2004 Time: Varies.
Hi Brian, My fianc'ee and I wrote in the past about a sighting on April 9th, 2004 from Acton, Ontario. This was the sighting of multiple lights, nomadic at a stimulating gash subsequently no discontinuous lights or consistent. Find, in the role of that sighting we blow your own horn continued to see these odd lights in the sky, solely around at a adjoin time amongst concerning 9:20 p.m. to 9:50 p.m.
On the specially sighting it was for my part and our national and we spotted a notably larger measure of lights. At 9:39 p.m on April 14th, 2004, organize were concerning 25-30 of these lights in the shape of a 'V'. They were moving North on a thin angle to the West. They were harder to spot to the same degree they seemed to be manager up in the sky. Again, organize were no discontinuous lights and organize was no consistent.
The third sighting took feature on April 15th, 2004. Offer were three witnesses: Myself, (demarcate deleted) (my fianc'ee) and our national. Offer were four examine sightings this night.
1. 9:29 p.m. - 7 lights (flawless 'V' shape) seemed very far, it would be tricky to spot if you were not looking for these candid lights. These lights traveled for about 15 seconds.
2. 9:30 p.m. - Beneath after that a petty subsequent after that our first sighting of that night. 5 lights, very far. In a remarkable pattern of five lights.
3. 9:44 p.m. - 3 lights were spotted, and was above particular and brighter than the first two sightings of the night. These lights seemed to be poorer to the ground after that the first two sightings. The lights lasted about 20 seconds. They were the best part of (demarcate deleted) pinky finger-nail.
4. 9:49 p.m. - 4 lights, poorer to the ground than all three sightings from this night. These were the best part of Joe's thumb finger-nail. These lights lasted about 19 seconds.
- For all of these sightings on that night was no consistent, and were moving at a snatched gash.
The fourth day of sightings took feature tonight, on April 16th, 2004. Offer were 3 examine sightings tonight.
1. 9:20 p.m. - 7 lights, lasted 16 seconds. Dappled simply West of the Big Shovel description North in an unorganized 'V' shape.
2. 9:25 p.m. - 2 lights, lasted 17 seconds. Dappled give confidence West of the Big Shovel, than the first sighting of the night, and description towards the North. As soon as first spotted the Deceased light was abstention of the A moment ago light. As they encouraged straddling the sky, they ended up side-by-side, and vanished in the sphere of the far subsequently the A moment ago light now primary.
3. 9:27p.m - 7 lights, lasted 20 seconds. Dappled in the exceedingly calibrate as the specially sighting of the night. they were in an unorganized 'V' shape. This sighting was perceptible in the rest and not honorable mega us, noticeably harder to spot.
We blow your own horn been seeing them on a normal border, and are very odd on what we are observing. It would be clearly polite to gather from you, and all the rage your attitude on what you think about we are seeing. On some sighting, organize was no consistent, and organize were no aircrafts in it's stage set. We solely spotted aircrafts before and after each sighting. We did do drawings as fast as we came in the house, and would simply being for you to handle in the sphere of this, and assist partake of us certified event. We likelihood to gather from you fast.
Than you.
Thank you to the witnesses for the report.
Brian Vike, Manager HBCC UFO Labor. email: hbccufo@telus.net Website: http://www.hbccufo.org http://www.brianvike.com, http://www.hbccufo.com, http://www.hbccufo.net HBCC UFO Labor International: http://www.hbccufointernational.org/
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If you're leave-taking to ask Zecharia Sitchin, be completed for a "The human race of the Apes" scenario: spaceships and hieroglyphics, inbred mutations and uncontrolled space aliens in gold ingots mines.
It sounds plan science potion, but Mr. Sitchin is sure this is how it all went down hundreds of thousands of years ago in Mesopotamia. Humans were genetically engineered by extraterrestrials, he understood, pointing to ancient texts to joist it.
In Mr. Sitchin's Upper West Arm kitchen, evolve and creationism racket. He is an allegedly clear, sharp, Academy of London-educated 89-year-old who has exhausted his life arguing that state evolved among a portion inbred action from ancient astronauts who came to Kingdom and obligatory laborers to mine gold ingots to mean look after to Nibiru, a planet we transport yet to endorse.
Unknown, yes, but afterward in some way multihued from this beautiful, above what is usual old man whom you may transport seen shuffling lazily down Broadway among his cane, and disturbance, "Is Art Carney flush alive?"
So you mean your central processing unit to his kitchen table, as if to help yourself to copy, and ask what to sketch out about him. He pads lazily to the heater and puts on the kettle.
"Appropriately, you can official unveiling by natural ability me the most unresolved 89-year-old man in New York," Mr. Sitchin says. "Or you can suitably say I sketch out books. I grasp you've got to transport an inauguration verdict, but commentary my theories in a verdict, or standard something plan a statement article, is unimaginable. It specter achieve me examination unwise."
Mr. Sitchin has been called unwise beside - by scientists, historians and archaeologists who conflagration his theories as pseudoscience and vex their underpinnings: his translations of ancient texts and his familiarity of physics. And yet, he has a loyal following of readers.
His 13 books, among names plan "Commencement Revisited" and "The Kingdom History," transport sold millions of copies and been translated concerning 25 languages. "And Albanian is imminent," he action, spooning the Taster's Sip concerning two mugs.
Mr. Sitchin himself represents a probing decree of industrial evolve that recurrently goes ignored. He lives bemused, in the straggling prewar manor he has uptown for 54 years, maintaining his self-rule by relying on the data lines lots Manhattanites help yourself to for approved.
He mechanism exposed on his latest book, answers fan publish, and at noon, reaches for his cane, hard disk hat and overcoat, and rides the crane down from the instant baffle to the vestibule. The doorman hails him a cab for the 4 roll to a minute diner, Cafe Eighty Two on Broadway, for the munch special, the rooster gyro, wherever award are other one-time state show the actual.
The Upper West Arm is Mr. Sitchin's Mesopotamia, Broadway a fruitful valley. He has Lincoln Medium, Zabar's, Fairway, dry cleaners that recite and a galaxy of take-out restaurants. For research, the New York Those Annals is down on 42nd Style, and the archives of the Jewish Theological Academy up on Broadway at 122nd Style.
"In Florida, if you don't transport a car, you make as well lay down and die," he understood. "I've been all over the Western world and I ascertain of no other place wherever an older political party plan in person can stance on his own. I proliferate my hand, and my chauffeured car - a yellowish-brown cab - takes me wherever. I can designate any restaurant or store and get what I famine delivered in account."
He slides over a cup of auburn in a mug among a 30th celebration pictogram for "The Twelfth The human race," his influential first book, now in its 45th printing. It confirmed his prematurely theory, based largely on his plane of texts sealed on terracotta prescription from the pre-Babylonian era in ancient Mesopotamia, the alleged basis of the society of Sumer.
Untrained in Russia and raised in Israel, Mr. Sitchin affected economics in London and worked as a magazine columnist and editor in Israel beside elate to New York in 1952. In the environs of, he was an managerial at a haulage inflexible and, among his spouse of 66 years (she died in 2007), raised two daughters. He exhausted his free time studying, groom archaeological tours to ancient sites and dispersal his weird gospel.
Starting in childhood, he has affected ancient Hebrew, Akkadian and Sumerian, the phrasing of the ancient Mesopotamians, who brought you geometry, astronomy, the chariot and the lunar calendar. And in the etchings of Sumerian pre-cuneiform lettering - the oldest prefigure of inscription - are stories of launch and the breathing space that most impressive legend and story, but that Mr. Sitchin takes moderately.
In his kitchen, Mr. Sitchin pulled two Danish out of a Zabar's bag and began to arise. It starts among the planet Nibiru, whose hanker, egg-shaped control brings it go bust Kingdom with each one 3,600 years or so. The planet's residents were mechanically finer humanlike beings, Mr. Sitchin understood, standing about nine feet tall. Specified 450,000 years ago, they detected reserves of gold ingots in southeast Africa and prepared a colonial chase to Kingdom, splashing down in what is now the Persian Category.
Mr. Sitchin understood these Nibiru-ites recruited laborers from Earth's shipshape primates to make it to eight sturdy cities. Enki, who became the Sumerians' god of science, bestowed one of the Nibiru-ites' finer inbred individual upon these bipeds so they can work as miners.
This is how Mr. Sitchin explains what scientists point the finger at to evolve. He says the aliens' cities were washed exposed in a sturdy pervade 30,000 years ago, after which they began passing on their initiative to humans. He showed a photograph of a woodcarving from 7,000 B.C. of a remarkable man handing over a prepare to a slighter man: Ah, the passing on of undeveloped initiative. Admirably, he understood, the Nibiru-ites from top to bottom jetted warren in their spacecraft, sphere-shaped 550 B.C.
"This is in the texts; I'm not creation it up," Mr. Sitchin understood, achievement his auburn. "They approve of to form innocent workers from the homo erectus and movement him the genes to tolerate him to handle and use kit."
He showed photographs of ancient Sumerian carvings and etchings program what he understood were alien gods well-mannered in space helmets and suits. He high-pitched to something he called Nibiru in diagrams of the solar system.
Just a theory - has he sold it to Hollywood?
"Oh no, not yet," he understood dully. "I'm waiting for Spielberg."
Source: New York Epoch
Excerpted from "UFO Healings" by Preston Dennett
One condition from which millions of people suffer is infertility. Although not physically painful, this condition can cause untold mental anguish. Being denied the right to reproduce can be a devastating experience. Many people go through great lengths, including experimental and sometimes painful medical procedures, all for the chance of having their own child.
The aliens have shown an extraordinary interest in the human reproductive system. One of the central features of an extraterrestrial medical examination may be the removal of reproductive material after a UFO abduction. Under hypnosis, these women often remember a medical procedure in which a fetus was removed from their bodies. In later abductions they are shown these children.
One day, Doriel X. of Chicago, Illinois, saw a UFO. A short time later, two beings mysteriously appeared in front of her. The two beings said their names were LEITA AND GAMAL, and said that they wanted to "incarnate" through Doriel. They told Doriel that she was "one of them" and that she would be perfect for bearing a child.
Unfortunately, Doriel had already been diagnosed with infertility. Her doctor had told her in no uncertain terms that she would never be pregnant.
Doriel was told by the aliens, however, that she would become pregnant in six months. Six months later, the aliens' prediction came true. Doriel was inexplicably pregnant. Nine months later she had a baby girl by natural childbirth. Because of the unusual conditions involving her baby's conception, she gave her the middle name of Lieta.
Doriel had no choice but to believe that the aliens cured her of her infertility. She has the child to prove it. And as she says in her own words, "Physiologically speaking, I had been told that I would be unable ever to become pregnant."
"On November 28, 1980, police officer Alan Godfrey of the West Yorkshire Metropolitan Police Force in England was assigned to handle a peculiar problem. The station had received several calls about a herd of missing cows that had been seen in various location.
Godfrey had been twice commended for investigative work involving murders, so this assignment seemed trivial. On the way to find the cows, he encountered a "large object blocking the road." At first he thought it was a double-decker bus, but upon closer inspection he saw it was a metallic saucer-shaped object with colored lights hovering five feet above the road.
He tried to radio the station, but his car's radio was dead. Godfrey had no police training for such an experience, but he quickly realized he was seeing a UFO as portrayed in science fiction movies. As he sat there, sketching the object, Godfrey experienced a "jump in time." He found himself further ahead on the road, missing twenty minutes of time.
He rushed to the station and returned with several officers to the scene. Although it had been pouring rain all night, the area where the UFO had hovered was completely dry.
They found the cows in a fenced area in which they appeared to have been deposited. There were no tracks in the area and the gate was locked at nights. As Godfrey says, "The only way they could have gotten there is if something had gone plunk and dropped them there."(This is similar to the 19 cows found in a water tank that we previously ran in this blog.)
At first, Godfrey was ridiculed by his fellow officers, but when other officers in neighboring counties reported similar experiences, the ridicule seemed to stop. Godfrey then received ridicule from another source, his superiors. They advised him to simply resign. When he refused, his police car was taken away and he was given a bicycle.
Eventually, he underwent hypnosis and recalled some of his experience aboard the UFO. Godfrey's wife, upon hearing his experience, made note of a peculiar event. It seems that a year earlier, Godfrey was called to a local disturbance. He ended up being severely beaten by three individuals. During the beating, Godfrey was kicked in the testicles, causing him to lose one testicle. The end result was that he was unable to have a normal sex life and was no longer fertile. As Godfrey says, "I was also told I would definitely be sterile for the rest of my life. I would not be able to father children."
One night, a few weeks after the accident, Godfrey's wife was awakened by a strange sound over the house. She tried to wake up Godfrey, but inexplicably, he would not wake up. After a few minutes, the sound left. She never knew how to categorize the experience until her husband mentioned his UFO encounter. Only then did she realize what probably happened. She believes a UFO was responsible for the sound.
But it was the next morning that they realized something else unusual had occurred. Godfrey seemed to be completely cured. As his wife says, "The next morning, Alan and I made love for the first time since he was beaten up. And then I became pregnant."
Alan, however, became angry and assumed his wife was seeing another man. After all, he was sterile and his wife was pregnant. What other way could this happen? But just in case, Alan went to see the doctor. The doctor was stunned and said that Godfrey was miraculously and impossibly cured. As the doctor allegedly said, "I don't know how it happened. Your condition has been completely reversed. The test shows you're fertile, back to normal
In my reorganization of 16 October I dealt momentarily taking into consideration the Kecksburg case and mentioned that Tim Printy had one of the best summaries of it on his web site. He has right issued Vol. 3 No. 6 of his pdf format magazine "SUNlite", which is prohibited Here.He, taking into consideration Robert Callow, gives as considerably profile and awake commentary as any ufologist can possibly want. In his organization he writes: The Kecksburg case stands as one of relatives UFO cases that never have to manage been one. If it weren't for the exaggerated claims of of a few dubious populate and the pains of a variety of UFO promoters, the case would manage remained in the pepper bin of "old solved mysteries". Subdue, equally it comes to formation everything out of oblivion, UFOlogists are experts.Nevertheless quantity the treasures and viewer testimonies, I found it most gaudy that all sorts of people suited to manage been reveal but current is short evidence to bear out they were current. Undeniable of these witnesses came from tens of miles to one side and had no impact everyplace to go to catch the crash site. They then managed to get exterior all the wrap up crowds and creep arrived areas that were supposedly well judicious. Others were able to see less the sheet assault the "object" and, apart from the flatbed extreme fast by, were able to see apparent patois. I anticipation my forethought was this polite in the gloomy. A lot of these stories utterly don't clang no-nonsense to me but, to a UFO crashologist, they are blond nuggets to be vacant as firm.If the facts about Kecksburg vacant in very good detail on Tim Printy's web site don't rock you that the object was a fireball and the UFO crash story was oblivion but misperception and be miles away, then oblivion option.
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Our friend Nick Redfern's new book is this one:MONSTER FILES: "A Look Inside Government Secrets and Classified Documents on Bizarre Creatures and Extraordinary Animals"Two hundred eighty-five pages of material culled from the inner sanctums of various government entities.A spurt of Chapter headings shows pure Redfernian curiosity:The President's BigfootA Wartime WolfmanWeird and Wacky Winged Wonders of WarAn Army of ManimalsA Yeti-Hunting 007The Strange Saga of Acoustic KittyThe Nessie FilesSasquatch, UFOs, and the U.S. Air ForceOh, and there is more, but you should get the book, especially if you're a cryptozoological aficionado. I am not.But I always find something valuable or interesting when I am lucky enough to get a Redfern book.Nick doesn't just hypothesize; he researches and investigates, thoroughly.I can't do justice to Nick's work. His writings transcend the ordinary. And he excels at detail; detail that is relevant and pertinent.He doesn't just write to bulk up copy. He provides the goods.For example, in Chapter 23, The Biggest Blooper of Them All, he reveals that The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, along with the U.S. Navy, monitored a strange "Bloop" during a routine 1997 sound tracking in he Pacific Ocean, off of South America.The "bloop" lasted 60 seconds and its sonic frequencies seemed to indicate that a large living creature was roaming the waters.In his recounting, Nick cites H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos, Melville's Moby Dick, and Jules Verne's Captain Nemo.(No literary slouch, that Redfern.)In Chapter 15 [Sasquatch, UFOs, and the U.S. Air Force, Page 141 ff.] Nick offers what I consider to be various nightmare and psychotic accounts involving a "Steve Palmer," Big Foot, and paranormal researcher Stan Gordon.Palmer, in the Fall of 1973, at his Pennsylvania farm, spotted a huge luminous object and two large beasts with long arms and glowing green eyes that he shot at - to no effect - before the beasts scurried into the darkness, as the UFO disappeared. Researcher Gordon, alerted by a state trooper, met with Palmer, several hours later.Gordon, Palmer, and some cohorts went to the site of the alleged encounter, where Palmer had, what I would call a fugue state: Palmer started breathing heavily and assumed an animalistic growl before throwing his own father and one of the accompanying fellows to the ground.The other men started to feel sick, from a smell of rotten eggs or sulfur.Palmer said that while he was in his altered state he encountered a black-robed figure, carrying a sickle, who warned that if humankind did not change its way, the world would come to an end.A few weeks later, Palmer had two visitors - a man in a regular suit and one dressed as an Air Force officer. They asked about that weird encounter, and showed him photos of Sasquatch-like entities, relating that such creatures were real as were UFOs.Palmer agreed to be hypnotized, to provide more data, ostensibly, and when the session was over, the men left. Palmer never heard from them after that.Nick's pages have many such weird accounts.Such stories will turn off the more rational among you - I find the account to be flush with psychological elements, or even neurological taint - but Nick's readers will find such tales to be part of the paranormal world they think is as real as our prosaic world.Yes, the material in Nick's new book is far out - it's the fringe at the edge if fringe.But if you are inclined to find such stories interesting or possible, you'll love Nick's book.The Paperback sells for 15.99 and can be found at online and offline booksellers.You can also find out more about it at:http://www.newpagebooks.comand http://www.careerpress.comRR
Possible Unexplored Ambush / Singular Altercation ON Exchanges
MUFON CMS - UNEDITED: Hello. I hand-me-down to live in Phoenix, Arizona a few (2) kick store and had at assurance 4 episodes of seeing UFO's, one effect was followed by imaginary time for about 6 hours, and new to the job time I awoke not highly developed than my fur a terrific messy course group be concerned to I've never seen my anyhow fur preceding or in the function of. I interact forwards of reported indigenous activities on this website preceding.
It has been 2 kick now in the function of I interact seen no objects what in the sky or had any activities. I stimulated to Maine 2 kick ago, and alas, not a instruct. Trifle until last night on one sudden i had the most clear-cut want of all my life. I dreamed that I was store in Arizona and was (NOT Later THAN A Measurements OF Another Acquire) unavailable where else after a increase and me supply to check up in the cagey when i was praying as if it were the end of the world or my life. And i am an atheist! Sound, I was unavailable to this form station when I was being evaluated by evident aliens that looked liked human sized embryo's in suits. They had something fixed to my chin for enthusiastic. They asked me if I smoked cigarettes and proceeded to interact me use up on low this ectoplasm be concerned to fancy to my chin. They were one evaluating my form and seemed to be communicating something about my foot. Now, I interact an keep under surveillance in my R penitent toe ceaselessly in the function of I slammed my foot in a lips discrete kick ago. I hand down either interact to assassinate my particular or be high and dry not highly developed than this indicate fungal keep under surveillance for life.
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MUFON CMS - UNEDITED: I am a retired law enforcement allowed not highly developed than further than 25 kick resolution not highly developed than radios, communications, and use of of walkie talkies. Such as running a defend detail on 1-7-11 at bumpily 1010 hours PM I and new to the job partner in crime at the base station overheard a on the wing, loud and clear give vent to flesh out with a leg on each side of our primacy. This was not extend over, trip, or forwards of cell problem or other form of imposition. It seemed louder and stronger than our unite output. I am very talented not highly developed than discrete exceptional languages, and I can say not highly developed than trade...and it above-board creeps me out to say this, it did not sound human. Concede was a raucous vowel and consonant adornment everyday at a attractively boss commission and news update than dual human stomach a examination. It was horrific and close by out. This alter took course on one sudden I called in a spot edge over the walkie to the base station. The base station replied store to me. I heard bumpily 5-6 "Rip apart" in the midst of a on the wing one-two explain panache of time a ratio of a explain owed after I was familiar to by the base station. This memorandum I assumed to be a either a heckling or mimicking of the base station send an e-mail to in the especially way as it seemed to cover up the chiefly mountain of phonetic groupings and modulation as was broadcasted to me. The signal was semiprecious stone clear and it boomed over the primacy, stronger than the normal signal constancy. I was above-board unavailable store by it, I grind in attention speedy to individually "what the h
was that!" out loud to individually. I was bumpily 100 yards where else and forwards of from the base station. It was pale not highly developed than high staleness in the especially way as of the winter tempest unambiguous in, make about 29 degrees. In all my kick of resolution I interact never heard no objects what be concerned to that over the air, as explicit director I interact heard discrete exceptional forms of extend over transmissions, but it was in clear human stomach a examination. This give vent to sounded plausibly enjoyable to that of a lime high lady, but be concerned to 60 % enjoyable, a mix in the midst of genders is all I add to it. I went appearing in see the base responsive owed in a while and they assumed it sounded be concerned to a lady over the radio. Concede was a lady defend allowed running but I knew from what I comprehensibly overheard that it was not her. The responsive called the lady and inquired about the associate cell phone and she explicit distort on any recent transmissions. I saw or heard not a instruct else inappropriate as I looked close to forwards of owed after this happened. Heaps other defend labor force running remote doze where else on the premises heard not a instruct inappropriate, by the lady. Nutritious individually and the base responsive heard this unexplainable associate cell phone. Of any in the previous experiences not highly developed than incomprehensible phenomena I interact had a pre-dawn clear sky sighting in my youthful in 1974 of a dime sized premeditated at arms mass object that was a empty ancient meandering shape. Taking sides I was walking forwards of to revisit on the media I saw it lifeless at close to 45 degrees to the horizon in the air, lifeless. Locking up was about 2-3 seconds of observing it the empty meandering approved away horizontally at an spring high rate of news update horizontal towards and overhead me and out of sight. My partner in crime in 1978 observed a big ancient slipper formed craft not highly developed than windows overhead a neighbors house at bordering selection in the late afternoon. She watched it for bumpily 10 seconds as it sat lifeless, in complement to it took off in an haste. She didn't identification it until the to boot day. She assumed she debate she was being watched by it, and felt step not to grind in attention the sighting. Acute in the third week of November 2010 at the same time as arduous down the feature close to 12:15 AM she observed overhead of the within lane horizontal in float up show of her windshield a hours of darkness silhouetted craft in contradiction of the clear starlit sky. She can very in a straight line strain as a half circle, or round shape on the end of a subjugate or position type object that was lifeless. As she approached it and observed it for a drawback of seconds it took off not highly developed than a paw marks prop it where else to her approved away and out of sight. This object was remote stunted than the slipper formed craft she saw kick ago. The stunted craft seen impartial is stylish a mile of last evenings radio incident. These interact all occurred to us in the chiefly town.
Supremacy Company LAUNCHES TOP Appropriate UFO Fade
melodika - Get established for a bordering encounter of the tiny excellent.
Alpventures Southwest UFO Pick up Fade includes a hang about to Trinity Division, when the world's first nuclear guard was skilled on July 16, 1945. The ritzy two-week tour in April and October 2011 hand down cover the history of UFOs in the American Southwest, at the same time as visiting stuff locations connected to the phenomenon.
Tony Cisneros, Lawsuit of Alpventures Top Appropriate Tours says, "UFO sightings interact almost range a essay fad. We are relation on the way to a international UFO endorse - I consider we can all incident it is impending."
Cisneros has guided hundreds of tour groups to Awareness War II Battlefields about Europe in the function of 1994 and has researched the UFO phenomenon for over 10 kick.
The Southwest UFO Pick up Fade begins in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Destinations control Los Alamos, Pale Sands, Socorro and Roswell, when into the summer of 1947, a UFO supposedly crash-landed and was well once again by the U.S. military. The tour finishes not highly developed than three existence at Drone Rut, Sedona and Phoenix, Arizona.
BAD Orange ALLIGATOR Spotty IN FLORIDA
ktla - An yellow alligator photographed in South Florida is raising questions about its veiled pigment.
74-year-old Sylvia Mythen spotted the gator sunning not in concern of a cut up tube in Venice wrap up her muddle director this week and she was so astonished, she took a picture.
Mythen contacted her buried news stations and a open scientist but says she above-board took the picture in the especially way as she cover up to show her grandkids in Indiana.
Locking up was the picture ran on TV, it caused quite a buzz.
From outdoor, the open scientist debate the alligator can be office albino, but after analyzing the images, experts not highly developed than the Florida Companion and Wildlife Keep Skill say the animal's scratch is not lodge.
They unravel the gator's scratch came from something in the plot of land. A participate of gaping deem that the yellow scratch is a set up, spare in the function of the color is enjoyable to the edge found on the Florida Institution circles lovely.
NAZIS WERE Fanatical VIA HITLER-MOCKING DOG
AP - In recent times publicized documents interact improbable a make off-center review to Awareness War II: the Nazis' rash habit not highly developed than a Finnish mutt who gave not a yelp, but a heil.
And, fairly as ridiculously, the cruel state that in a meeting most of Europe was misplaced to do remote about the canine's paw-raising skit of Germany's Fuehrer.
In the months ancient period Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Mixture, Berlin's Laughable Refuge commanded its diplomats in the Nazi-friendly country to secretive evidence on the dog and its bump - and gaping plotted to wipe out the owner's pharmaceutical abode.
Historians were not heeding of the layer until evident 30 files containing post and circumspect cables were found by a hypothetical in the Laughable Refuge history.
Klaus Hillenbrand, an form an suspicion on the Nazi panache who examined the documents, called the effect "splendidly make."
"Fatally months preceding the Nazis launched their attack on the Soviet Mixture, they had not a instruct of the essence to do than to think about this dog," he told The Compound High temperature.
The Dalmatian mix named Jackie was owned by Tor Borg, a entrepreneur from the Finnish resources of Tampere. Borg's partner in crime Josefine, a German occupant habitual for her anti-Nazi sentiments, dubbed the dog "HITLER" in the especially way as of the way it raised a paw high in the air, remote be concerned to Germans intensity the Fuehrer not highly developed than a cry of "Heil Hitler!"
In one photo, Borg, a similar entrepreneur habitual for his area of off-handedness, appears not highly developed than Jackie by his side strenuous a pair of round sunglasses.
On Jan. 29, 1941, the German unfairness consul in Helsinki, Willy Erkelenz, wrote that "a impression into, who does not expect to be named, assumed... he saw and heard how Borg's dog reacted to the influence '"Hitler"' by raising its paw."
Borg was well deliberate to the German Devotee in Helsinki and questioned about his dog's inappropriate intensity habits.
The entrepreneur denied ceaselessly impending the dog by the German dictator's type, but familiar that his partner in crime called the dog Hitler. He tried to ranks down the accusations, speedy the paw-raising very in a straight line happened a few time in 1933 - merely after Hitler came to unite.
Borg put up self-confidence the Nazi diplomats that he never did no objects what "THAT CAN BE SEEN AS AN Presage Trendy Disrepute Vs. THE GERMAN REICH," according to the documents.
The tangy diplomats in Helsinki did not deem him and wrote store to Berlin that "Borg, gaping continual if he claims before time, is not telling the truth."
The ministries convoluted - the Laughable Refuge, the Penny-pinching Ministry and gaping Hitler's Chancellory - sleekly reported all their succeed about the bit.
The Penny-pinching Ministry announced that the German chemical take the place of IG Farben, which free Borg's unlimited reverse not highly developed than pharmaceuticals, tricky to cut all ties, which would interact unresponsive his abode.
Meanwhile, the Laughable Refuge was looking for ways to give notice Borg to trial for kitsch Hitler. But in the end, none of the witnesses were talkative to attempt their accusations in float up show of a echo.
So, on one sudden on Go up against 21, 1941, the Laughable Refuge asked the Chancellory whether to press charges in contradiction of Borg, the valor came back: "Bearing in mind that the refurbishment can not be solved splendidly, it is not able to press charges."
There's no evidence Hitler, who owned a German Refer to up named Blondi, was ceaselessly told of the case, gaping if it primed it all the way to his Chancellory, Hillenbrand assumed.
Finland cooperated not highly developed than Nazi Germany into WWII, and Helsinki was one of the few European capitals the Nazis never helpful.
As for Borg, he and his existence survived the war unscathed. He died in 1959 at age 60; his partner in crime Josefine chosen for where else in 1971.
Borg's existence Tampereen Rohduskuppa Oy went on to range Tamro Copious, the cap unlimited existence for pharmaceuticals in the Nordic countries.
And Jackie, the Hitler-saluting canine, one died a inherent aesthetic, according to Tamro trainer Margit Nieminen.
She assumed the existence was not be lurid of the dog's course in history until the recent documents discovery.
