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Part II
-UFOs are mis-identified aircraft or experimental aircraft
Kick The Flying Saucer.... Please?
By Joseph Capp
From almost the very first modern sighting there has been a physical maneuver associated with UFOs. This maneuver, reported by reputable witnesses, is "the right angle turn."
Gordon Cooper was one of the thousands who reported this as fact. The then future astronaut reported chasing one of a group of these saucers noting the craft would move "sideways". Cooper was on a jet closing in on these "saucers" and they could change direction instantaneously.
For a complete rebuttal to James Oberg attack on this brave veteran's word please read:
http://www.cohenufo.org/ocr.1a.html
What would it take for a plane to make a right angle turn at 600+ miles per hour? It would be the same as if that plane hit a solid steel wall. What plane on the drawing boards of any government can do that? Did any government plane or missile have this maneuverability in the early 50s, when the reports first appeared? Do they have it now? Is it true the UFO phenomenon displays technology beyond our present ability? If they are able to make right angle turns at the speeds reported, they do.
At least one General others agreed with me:
-Commanding General Nathan F. Twining of the Air Material Command, U.S.A.A.F., in a declassified letter to the Pentagon.
"Headquarters wouldn't let us go after it and we played around a little bit. We got to watching how it made 90 degree turns at this high speed and everything. We knew it wasn't a missile of any type..."
-Colonel Carl Sanderson, USAF
"From their maneuvers and their terrific speed I am certain their flight performance was greater than any aircraft known today."..,
There are others: military quotes about UFO
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1743.htm
At some of these speeds UFOs may even defy our laws of physics.
If they are "our" craft and piloted by humans, we may have a moral problem. If our government has had a way for a pilot to survive such g forces, why haven't they released it? How many of our pilots have died because they haven't had access to this technology ?
If we believe the premise that UFOs are from here (America) we still end up with a decades old conspiracy and a disgrace to our military leaders which would involve our government and quite possible the private sector.
If we add thousands of other anomalies reported such as:
-Hovering with no sound
-Acrobatic movements
-Extreme acceleration
-Avoid Radar detection
-Invisibility
-Interference with electrical equipment
We started this post with a brave scientist(Bruce Cornet), who went to see and document for himself what the "Pine Bush" residence were reporting. His conclusions were the same as what other good people have been reported for decades.
We are not alone.
http://www.sunstar-solutions.com/AOP/HomePage/power point presentations.htm
Sometimes the people are right!
Part III
A Challenge To Scientist
For decades, astronomers have used telescopes to describe the atmospheric conditions in a distant world. And mentions the fact that we bersukur has lived on this earth.
10. Serious Lightining (lightning worst)
NASA's Cassini spacecraft has seen an electrical storm larger than the continental United States electrical storm on Saturn, with flashes of lightning 1,000 times stronger than on Earth. A thunderstorm which stretches 2175 miles (3,500 kilometers) from north to south and emit radio noise similar to that dihasisilkan on earth.
9. Hot Crush (thermal destruction)
as the name implies,. Venus is the hottest place in our solar system. with a temperature of about 750 Kelvin and has a pressure 90 times on this earth will make every visitor will be destroyed (crush). Scientists say that this happens because of the excessive greenhouse effect of cloud cover sulfuric venus ceiling. then be a major greenhouse effect and cause this.
8. Methane Moon (Moon Methane)
Cassini Huygens spacecraft found evidence among the heavy rains of liquid methane that occurs in its Saturn "Titan". and perhaps in the "water" in the moon is also due to methane in Titan's cold temperatures (94 degrees Kelvin)-water will be locked up as ice.
7. Scarlet Rain (Red Rain)
In the summer of 2001, at least 50 tons of red particles fallen in Kerala, India continued for nearly two months with rain. It turns out this rusty red objects, including particles of dust storms and biological cells derived from extraterrestrial (a type of bacteria that mksdnya). In the April issue of the journal Astrophysics and Space Science, scientists from the Mahatma Gandhi University, reports that the particles have the appearance of biological cells, can reproduce at temperatures sizzle, and have nothing in common with dust particles.
6. Popsicle planet (planet ice}
Pluto is now considered the 9th planet in this solar system has the fact that the sun is in the can plto earth around 1:1000 compared to the year and cause the planet (?) is composed of ice consisting of frozen nitrogen, methane and carbon dioxide with temperatures ranging from minus 387 to minus 369 Fahrenheit (40-50 degrees Kelvin).
5. windy world (the wind)
Neptune was discovered in the roar of the wind blowing more and stronger there than on Earth, reaching 1,500 mph (2414 kph). Along with the rapid rotation of the planet (around 16 hours), causing convection heat-cold quickly and then also can affect the speed of the wind and creates the wind speed exceeds the speed of the earth
4. Freeze Frame (frame es)
Temperatures on Uranus can reach below minus 300 degrees Fahrenheit (89 Kelvin). Uranus has 17-hour rotation yet reached 84 years of the revolution that led to the season (extreme) would be a long time to change. Sometimes, it can be so cold that methane gases in the atmosphere condenses into clouds of methane crystals.
3. Close Encounter (collision biggest storm)
Two spots above the sphere of the planet Jupiter is a storm that was raging on the planet. of the size of the storm alone we can know. Which is called the great big red spo, t storm that is more than double the width of the Earth with 350-mph ((563 kph) winds and a small (storms) on call red.Jr. Although not completely understood, scientists think the red color correlated with the intensity of the storm-wind and then generating a chemical compound from under the clouds and lift them to high ultraviolet sianr dtambah resulting brick hue.
2. Dust Buster (dust buster)
Mars has been known to have flung dust storms that swept across parts of the march. This rust colored dust can be blown with a speed of 60-100 mph (97-161 kilometers) per hour, which lasts for weeks to months. Once started, this impenetrable fog can envelop more than half the planet, raising the temperature 30 degrees Celsius in parts of Mars
1. Iron rain (rain of iron)
so-called "failed stars", this is a brown dwarf planet newly discovered planets of our solar styled (one of three dwarf planets are published on tlah found that tablets of Gan: d), the color brown indicates that this planet has ferum elements (iron) which high (CMIIW). This planet has a storm like that are on jupiter and menghepaskan BSI "to its surface. brown dwarf is getting a cold from time to time, the gas molecules condense into liquid iron-iron clouds and rain. With further cooling, a large storm swept away the clouds, let the bright infrared light escaping into space.
Source: www.space.com
What follows is a direct transcript used with permission, of an
interview I conducted with John Lear, author of Lear.txt in the files section. Hopefully, this interview will answer some of your questions as well as some of mine.
Brad Langton 02-Feb-88 approx. 1:30AM to 3:30AM
Ok, we're "live" so to speak... you just mentioned that
there were 70 other species in contact with this world... of which 4 others were overt...are they aware of the EBE's?
Yes they are. The types I will mention are listed in a USAF
Academy Physics book called Introductory Space Science Volume 2. I
refer to Chapter 13 about page 8 which lists the ones that are most seen. They are the EBE's the "blondes". (also called the Nordics).
They look just like us but are invariably blonde haired and blue eyed.
Don't know where they come from but they do not interact with us
except for a few abductions now and then.
We also have a species that is similar to us in appearance but
they are about 7 ft tall and the main difference is that their eyes wrap around the head a little more than ours. Another type listed is a small species about 4 ft. tall, very hairy and extremely strong for their size. We don't know where these guys come from either. All
this was in the aforementioned text which was withdrawn by the Air
Force in the early 70's from the book. But there are several people that have the original book. The EBE's are about the only ones where we are pretty sure where they come from and that is Zeta Reticuli 1 ' (and as late as one week ago) that the situation is 'ominous'.
Please understand my pauses... have to consider the next
question...
Ok, meantime looking for the date and issue of Nature.
I recall now, one of my users requested information on the
"Roswell Incident" and if it were in any way tied to any of this?
Yes, the Roswell crash was the first recovered flying saucer
crash in the U.S. Bill Moore located 90 material witnesses to the
crash. It was near Corona, N.M. and a few months ago I interviewed
Mrs. Procter near whose ranch this thing crashed. 4 bodies were
recovered. There is one person still alive at this moment who helped Mac Brazel drag some of the wreckage to the shed. He and Brazel were approached at that time by (I know its hard to believe but the guy is going to come forward soon) an alien who told them both to keep their mouths shut. He is the last guy alive that was directly connected
with that retrieval.
Are you saying that the others involved were murdered?
No. No. They have just passed away. That was a long time
ago. The last guy to die was Maj. Jesse Marcel, The intelligence
officer at Roswell who went out and helped pick up the wreckage.
Before he died a few years ago he went public with his account which was that the crash was not a balloon or a radar reflector or an
airplane. He didn't state what it was, but said it was not of this
earth. I have a transcript of the cassette tape of his memories of
picking up the wreckage, its only a page long if you would like me to send that.
Of course, any information you have will be helpful... What
of yourself, why are you coming forward now, particularly placing the spotlight on yourself... aren't you concerned that there may be some sort of repercussions from the government regarding the stir this is and will continue to cause?
Hopefully the spotlight will be on the information and not on
myself. No there is not too much worry because, well let me say that
5 years ago I wouldn't have gotten away with this but things are so screwed up now that one voice talking to...what 50? 100? people
can't make any possible difference. Also if something was going to
happen it would have happened a few weeks ago. I wrote Dr. Lew Allen, Director of JPL and MJ-12 member that I was going to do a story on his participation in MJ-12 particularly because JPL employed 8000 people in the Southern California area. I also enclosed a copy of my
hypothesis and told him it was on ParaNet and CompuServe. Dr. Allen has a reputation of responding to all mail in a very prompt manner.
But me? I didn't hear anything. Not even a "John Lear you must be
crazy." He wrote a letter to Max Fiebleman of Los Angeles on the 18th of December. Max had sent him a copy of the Hudson Valley video and asked Dr. Allen to look at it. Dr. Allen responded that he had taken a quick glance but did not have the time for anything more and on the basis of what he saw determined that it was a blimp. He also wished Max a Merry Christmas. Now......this is one of the worlds greatest
scientists? Not interested in that Hudson Valley video tape?
Gimme a break.
There are certainly a lot of inconsistencies seemingly from
everywhere on this issue. As you know, Jim Speiser and ParaNet are
often published in some form, usually a quote from Jim, in the major UFOlogy magazines... I would suspect that this matter will be reaching a lot more people than just those of us here in the BBS community.
What of the future...can we expect more information, hard or soft
evidence that will help align the apparent inconsistencies or at best, give a more cohesive picture of some of the answers to questions that your original release has raised?
I would be very surprised if some kind of statement from the
government is not forthcoming within the year, more probably within 6 months possibly much sooner... That's about all I can speculate from the information I am getting.
Well, you can be assured that we will be continuing to watch
these developments should they occur. Last year there was a similar promise of major information by year's end... you got in just under the wire but the other information was not this information, at least not necessarily as coming from you. Time is running short for me here and I want to thank you for incurring the phone bill for this
interview but I think it is important that we try to get as many
answers on this as possible. Do you have any closing statements that you would like to make at this time?
Just to thank you for your time and I will be sending you the
aforementioned documents etc.
Thank you very much John, your participation will no doubt
add a level of credibility to your desire to spare little expense in helping us find the truth about all this.
Thanks again, and talk to you later.
Copyright @1988 National Fringe Sciences Information Service. All
Rights Reserved.
Visual effects expert Doug TrumbullIn previous postings, you'll have seen my speculations about visual effects expert Douglas Trumbull and his supposedly shelved UFOTOG project. Mr Trumbull was kind enough to take the time out to update me on UFOTOG as it stood when I asked him about it.My previous posts are below with the most recent first.Douglas Trumbull's response on UFOTOGOpen email to Douglas Trumbull about UFOTOGStill no news on UFOTOG "Well "according to an interview that "Open Minds" (click link) was able to get with a colleague of Trumbull's, who - rather interestingly in itself - is a representative of "Mutual UFO Network" - Mark D'Antonio (a photo analyst for the MUFON), a new 'fictionalised' account concerning the use of the equipment featured in the UFOTOG project is soon to be released.Whilst encouraging, this appears to be a new approach being taken with this project. It seems that rather than produce an actual documentary (yet) of Trumbull and his team's efforts to get verifiable data on intelligently controlled non-terrestrial objects; or conversely even come away with no verifiable data to support existence of the same; Trumbull is perhaps seeking to generate further interest and funding for UFOTOG by releasing this 'fictional' version of a documentary. The UFOTOG Humvee in actionTo paraphrase Mark D'Antonio from the "Open Minds" interview, the film will be 'A visual foray into what could be the potential reality of the project'.I think that this is great news that the project is alive and well and that Mr Trumbull has some support in this.It's also very interesting to see that Mr Trumbull is now apparently working with a well-known, long-standing and respected American UFO investigations body on this project.This could be a smart way to engage more undecided hearts and minds (and potentially well-funded backers) for the project without the stigma of ridicule being attached.We'll have to see whether this leads to an actual groundbreaking documentary in time...
Reference: fromatlantistosphinx.blogspot.com
ALIEN ENCOUNTER IN IMPERIAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA ON JANUARY 15TH 2013 - PHOTO OF SHORT CREATURE WITH ARMS LEGS LARGE HEAD AND EYES PHASED IN AN IMAGE TAKEN OF A CARHello, about 3 months ago a close friend of mine bought a new >car, she took a picture of it in her driveway in Imperial Beach here in >San Diego California, when she put it on her computer, standing there >near the front bumper (actually inside the bumper), is what looks like >an alien phased partially in and out of reality. You can even see its >feet and toes on the ground under the car. Id like to submit the photo >for analysis if possible. Its got a lot of people wondering. The friend >of mine is a nice woman with nothing to gain by faking it (she doesn't >even know how to fake it) and it scared the heck out of her. I believe >its not faked. Its a very striking image of the being. I found the >MUFON group on a mini series show that was on tv recently called Alien >Mysteries, specifically in the episode called Corina. What struck me >was the alien that Corina describes in her encounter that she saw in >her house look very similar to the one in the image of my friends new >car. My friend didn't know what to do, it scared her pretty bad. I can >email the image to you if you like. I lend a lot of credibility to this >as I have myself seen a UFO in the night sky several years ago in Long Beach California. >I believe they have been here a long time. I just cant get over how >much the being in this photo looks like the ones in the episode I mentioned. >Please take a look at it, I'd appreciate it. Please tell me where to >send the image.2013 SIGHTING REPORT(via MUFON.com)Learn about: an amazing NASA UFO Sighting Video and Blatant Cover-Up.Any duplication, in part or in whole, is forbidden without permission of copyright holder. Email Site Admin for inquiries, comments or questions.
SHORT UFO FACT: [Warrant Officer D.C. Newhouse, USN, obtained 16 mm color movies of a group of UFOs which he and his wife observed visually near Tremonton, Utah. At relatively close range, UFOs appeared flat and circular "SHAPED LIKE TWO SAUCERS, ONE INVERTED ON TOP OF THE OTHER." Mr. Newhouse unpacked his Bell and Howell Automaster camera, with 3-inch telephoto lens, from the trunk of his car and obtained about 1200 frames of the UFOs on Daylight Kodachrome film. During the filming, Mr. Newhouse changed the iris stop of the camera from f/8 to f/16. The film was submitted to Navy authorities, who forwarded it to the Air Force at ATIC in Dayton, Ohio, where it was studied for several months.]MARS NASA COVER UP PT 2 SHORT UFO FACT: [At about 16:30 in the afternoon of 19 July 1952, the attention of Customs Inspector, Sr. Domingo Troncoso, then with the Peruvian Customs Office at Puerto Maldonado on the jungle frontier with Bolivia, was called to a very strange cigar-shaped flying object over the river area. The big dirigible-shaped craft was flying horizontally and fairly low in the sky, passing from right to left from the observer's position.]UFO TEXAS CNN REPORTSIF THESE EVIDENCES ARE ENOUGH FOR YOU, THEN RATE THIS PAGE:>>> You're still not sure? Get the documentary proof here
This unidentified orange UFO has been caught hovering above Brownsburg USA, the UFO can been seen emitting a bright orange light. The eyewitness has stated the craft had no blinking lights.
EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY
Was taking Super Moon pics Aug. 11th on the east side of Brownsburg. I thought I saw a shooting star at one point while taking the moon pictures. On the way home, I was watching the sky to the west. I was only about 3 blocks from my house, looking west when I noticed a red orb, or fireball.
I have seen these before. I knew right away what it was. Got home, had my camera in the car, so got it out right away. Adjusted the settings, got one picture of it, as by that time was already over my house headed east. It was headed just to the right of the full moon. The moons light was so bright, that the orb just faded out in the light. I thought, oh darn, wanted to get more pics. I wanted it to come back. I took a couple more pics of the moon.
It seemed like only 5 min. and I looked straight up, and another one was there. I got six or seven pictures of that one. It went on the same path, and faded out in the moons light, just as the other one did. I thought it was no Chinese Lantern, as there was not much wind. Moved too fast for a lantern, and what's the chance it was on the exact same flight pattern as the first. Too slow for a plane, and no blinking lights.
I could have sworn I only waited about 5 min. when the second one went over. But when I went to up-load my photos, the time said the first one was at 9:44, and the rest of the pics on the second one was 10:10.
UFO SIGHTING DESCRIPTION - Orange Glowing UFO
DATE - 2014-08-11 9:44PM
LOCATION - Brownsburg USA
COLOUR - Orange
Source: ufoproofs.blogspot.com
